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Did a eunuch carry them on a pillow and place them with silken glove in a unicorn's butt to test for mirophonics? No, but they test as new, the ones I got had boxes and tubes in beautiful if not immaculate condition, and sell for 1/2 of what the "snake oil" website sell the same, OEM, and ones out of box with faded paint that test new for. My amps have never sounded like this, I can never go back. NOS are worth it. Take a chance and order, or call a salesperson to see what they have. My tone and playing will never regret getting these.